Go Back OFN Forums > Shop and Tool Talk > Torches and Torch

Torches and Torch Plasma? Oxy? Which one? How do you use them?


Torches and Torch Plasma? Oxy? Which one? How do you use them?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 11-01-2010, 10:04 AM
pertneer's Avatar
pertneer pertneer is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 278
I am curious to see what plasma you are using and what thicknesses of material you have tried?
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 11-01-2010, 08:49 PM
ScooteK's Avatar
ScooteK ScooteK is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: southern california
Posts: 1,480
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shox Dr View Post
Cool, it that a "because I can" job
Every job is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pertneer View Post
I am curious to see what plasma you are using and what thicknesses of material you have tried?
I use a thermal dynamics cutmaster 51. I have cut 1/16, 1/8, 3/16, 1/4, 5/16 mild steel and 1/16, and 1/8 stainless using this table. When I was cutting by hand before the table I cut everything upto 3/4 in mild steel and 1/4 in 4130.
The cutter is old from what Ive heard, even its replacement Im told is discontinued. I will be trying thicker metals on this table as they become needed, and I have yet to do AL.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 11-07-2010, 09:54 AM
Bstomper's Avatar
Bstomper Bstomper is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 221
Sweet projects and glad to see you got things sorted out and it working. And you are right, that is some DAMN GOOD customer service. A person doesn't mind a few glitches in the product if you are going to get C/S like that. I just wish I could afford one
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 12-08-2010, 08:34 PM
Torchmate's Avatar
Torchmate Torchmate is offline
Junior Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 19
Looks like it is getting some use. I am glad. Thanks for the kind words about us. I love all the video's and pictures.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 01-15-2011, 08:43 PM
ScooteK's Avatar
ScooteK ScooteK is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: southern california
Posts: 1,480
To all that use a machine like this, and those who have/would purchase parts cut with one. Im trying to see what fair prices are.
What would you charge/pay for a sign like or simmilar to this one.

It has 40 pierces
228 seconds of cut time
cut at 90 ipm
7 dollars in metal (16g cr)
tips are $4
paint was done for free on this one.(trying to get the biger order for the whole club.)
Its 12 x 23 inches
20 or 30 min on the computer.
1 free laugh watching the machine work.


Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 01-15-2011, 08:51 PM
Rokcrler's Avatar
Rokcrler Rokcrler is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hsv. Ala
Posts: 716
Dont forget your utilities in the cost

$25-$30 seems about right for the size i think

Edit: I dont have a table
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 01-30-2011, 04:19 PM
ScooteK's Avatar
ScooteK ScooteK is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: southern california
Posts: 1,480
Thanks Rokcrler, I guess its a trade secret what everyone else charges.
I sold that one for 45 bucks.

Still have no real good consistant way to charge. I feal like a car salesman. What ever their willing to pay.
I know its not right but its not hard to sell this stuff.




Last edited by ScooteK; 01-30-2011 at 07:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 01-30-2011, 06:56 PM
ronpadilla's Avatar
ronpadilla ronpadilla is offline
Junior Fabricator
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4
what to charge

there is an old saying in business, and that is what ever the market will bear, if you quote before hand and the customer dose not flinch then the price is not bad. If they feel it is to high they will say that as well, along the lines of i will get back to you. It has always been the case good economy or not. Dont be afraid to charge what you think is justified or you will find yourself having a hard time paying the bills.

Ron From the I.E.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 01-30-2011, 07:22 PM
rbeckett's Avatar
rbeckett rbeckett is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bronson, Fla
Posts: 197
Scoot. you are doing the same kind of stuff I was doing before I got sick. I tried to figure what it cost me to do a full sheet and doubled it to cover labor and consumables. So if a sheet cost me 86.00 I tried to make sure I sold at least enough pieces to get back 175 or 180 extra. That covered the next sheet of material and I could make sure I had good consumables and clean dry air with fresh dessicant. Worked out pretty good for me doing it that way.
Bob
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 01-31-2011, 04:52 PM
Captainfab's Avatar
Captainfab Captainfab is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Coeur d'Alene Idaho
Posts: 2,738
I'd say that $45.00 for that is a fair price.

The only pricing reference I can offer is this. For the laser cutting I have done, I pay .50 per hole, which is less than the average walkin guy would pay. Of course I am providing the dxf file. They have to take it from the programing on. I would say that a hole also would equate to a piercing.

You're doing some nice work Scoot.
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 01-31-2011, 11:09 PM
4play's Avatar
4play 4play is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Kankakee Il
Posts: 204
Scootek ive been trying to get my boss to buy a torchmate for 5 years. Someone has him convinced that you have to have a 50-60-$70,000 machine with some ungodly sized plasma machine to get a good finished product. You my friend have just proved this to be untrue. I've got a feeling that even when I show him this thread that he still wont change his mind. I guess ill be stuck cutting paper patterns for the electric eye torch for another 5 years. Thanks for posting up all this good info. oh and nice work also.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 02-01-2011, 01:18 PM
Otis's Avatar
Otis Otis is offline
Junior Fabricator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 7
There's a spreadsheet for billing in the Torchmate forum on Pirate 4x4. Here's the thread:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=940316

-Jon
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 02-01-2011, 04:26 PM
jackalope's Avatar
jackalope jackalope is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: St. Peters, MO near St. Louis
Posts: 1,433
I really like that set up! Very nice and clean. Your Powell/Peralta "Bones" sign brings back some fond memories!!!!

I will have to look into the cost of a machine like this. Not something I could swing now, but perhaps if things pick back up............ T

Keep up the great work! I need you to cut me a up a Jackalope for my vintage Fridge project! ;-)

Grant
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 02-02-2011, 01:37 AM
ScooteK's Avatar
ScooteK ScooteK is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: southern california
Posts: 1,480
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4play View Post
Scootek ive been trying to get my boss to buy a torchmate for 5 years. Someone has him convinced that you have to have a 50-60-$70,000 machine with some ungodly sized plasma machine to get a good finished product. You my friend have just proved this to be untrue. I've got a feeling that even when I show him this thread that he still wont change his mind. I guess ill be stuck cutting paper patterns for the electric eye torch for another 5 years. Thanks for posting up all this good info. oh and nice work also.
Sounds like he has spent alot of money on other methods when he could have been making money with one of these machines. This machine would pay for itself fast.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Otis View Post
There's a spreadsheet for billing in the Torchmate forum on Pirate 4x4. Here's the thread:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=940316

-Jon
Sounds cool but I was banned from pirate years ago. I have to use someone elses computer to even view that site. Shortest long story there is. Made 2 posts, and neither one had a single word.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
I really like that set up! Very nice and clean. Your Powell/Peralta "Bones" sign brings back some fond memories!!!!

I will have to look into the cost of a machine like this. Not something I could swing now, but perhaps if things pick back up............ T

Keep up the great work! I need you to cut me a up a Jackalope for my vintage Fridge project! ;-)

Grant
Thats the "ripper" artwork just like you remember. Very famous, and still used today. I used to love it when it was animated on a video and he would tear through and laugh.

I would be happy to cut the jackalope. Send me a pic or PM me what you want.

Last edited by ScooteK; 02-02-2011 at 01:41 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 02-02-2011, 10:15 AM
Otis's Avatar
Otis Otis is offline
Junior Fabricator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 7
Here's a direct link to the spreadsheet- it's not mine, just trying to help. Mediafire has a bunch of adds and popups, but the download works.
http://www.mediafire.com/?b3df5bohmd32abg
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 02-02-2011, 10:54 AM
jackalope's Avatar
jackalope jackalope is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: St. Peters, MO near St. Louis
Posts: 1,433
If you send me an email, I will attach the picture. I don't have your email address and it would not let me put attachment in personal message.
My email is grant@jackalopefab.com

Thanks, Grant
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 02-02-2011, 01:05 PM
CarterKraft's Avatar
CarterKraft CarterKraft is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 952
Does that file spreadsheet work for everyone, I followed the link in PBB and when I downloaded it, it looked like a invoice only not the calc sheet that was posted earlier.
Just me?

Scootek, that stuff looks awesome to me. I think 45$ would be a good price but like you say it's pretty much what they will pay. Have you kept track of your income from the table alone, curious to your ROI.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 02-02-2011, 01:34 PM
Otis's Avatar
Otis Otis is offline
Junior Fabricator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 7
Click the Item Cost and Item Worksheet tabs on the bottom of the form.
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 02-02-2011, 03:24 PM
CarterKraft's Avatar
CarterKraft CarterKraft is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 952
doh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Otis View Post
Click the Item Cost and Item Worksheet tabs on the bottom of the form.
I looked there when I downloaded originally and didn't see it, when back to the saved file and voila, thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 02-02-2011, 06:06 PM
Rock4XFab's Avatar
Rock4XFab Rock4XFab is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Illinois/Wisc border Name Scott Yach
Posts: 2,104
I have both the Invoice and price list... I will email it to Andy...
__________________
I was not born in the DARK...........................................I had a torch in my Hand


http://rock4xfabrication.com
1-847-672-9653
1-847-544-1823
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:05 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Template-Modifications by TMS
Copyright ©2012-2020, Offroad Fabrication Network